With Ron Paul clobbering the competition in virtually every online poll, and getting an exceptional reaction in the face to face campaigning that I've done for him in resent weeks, it was a little disheartening to see that he came in 5th at the Iowa Straw Poll. But the exit polling and the buzz on the ground showed a very different result.
Iowa Straw Poll Exit Poll ...
Ron Paul______37.01%
M Huckabee___20.85%
T Tancredo____16.72%
Mitt Romney___10.03%
S Brownback___06.91%
T Thompson____04.35%
D Hunter_______01.34%
F Thompson____00.89%
Rudy Giuliani___00.67%
John McCain____00.56%
John Cox_______00.45%
These results are particularly troubling when the fact that the actual voting took place on the now infamous Diabold (now called "Premier") voting machines.
Paul himself is a forward looking man and has declined any attempts to challenge the results. This is probably a good move on his part, as any attempt to do so would likely result in him being smeared again as a conspiracy theorist. But it wasn't really Paul's votes that are alleged to have been stolen. Those votes belonged to "We The People", specifically the people who cast them.
Further, attempts to cast doubt on the exit polls by saying that they were conducted by "obvious" Paul supporters doesn't seem to match up with this eyewitness account:
"I was at the Iowa Straw Poll and I did vote for Dr. Paul. I don't believe that the exit poll is completely correct, I do believe that Paul supporters would be more likely to take and exit poll, but I have to say the exit pollers weren't obviously Paul supporters. They were with an organization called the Sunshine Petition. None of them had any Paul paraphernalia on. There was no way to tell who they supported by walking by them and none of them said any thing about any of the presidential hopefuls. All they wanted any one to do was to fill out a slip that stated who they were and who they voted for so once the money was being handed out that your money would go to the person you voted for. The republican party of Iowa even showed up with the Ames police department to have these same people arrested for just trying to verify voting results. Since when do we attack people for trying to make sure that we have fair and balanced elections? I feel more and more every day that we just need to change our name to the USSR, because we are living in a country where none of our freedom is real any more." ~ Chris
Since this spectacle in Iowa, Paul has come in a respectable third in the Illinois Straw Poll and first in a North Carolina Straw Poll.
I know that the media is not giving Paul a fair shake, but there are thousands of volunteers nationwide that are attempting to make up for that "oversight". But the security of our democracy and our election process should not be subject to the machinations and deceptions of electronic voter fraud. To that end, I support a national effort to banish the Diabold machines to the lowest rung of hell that we can find, for without an honest vote, our democracy is nothing but a sham.
Friday, August 17, 2007
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This is why we need campaign finance reform for government-funded elections. No more millionaires buying elections.
Hi Eric,
I agree that money is far too important a factor in the election process. But I worry about the solution you suggest too. Who gets to decide who is an "official" candidate, deserving of these public funds? I fear that it would breed the same type of homogeny that we now see in our broadcast media. Would "fringe candidates" like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich be eligible? What about Mike Gravel? Would this decision making process be dependent on polls that were subject to the same type of monkey business that I allude to in this post? If so, we could end up creating less diversity of opinion and not more.
Good post. I also have to question the exit polling results, not because Paul did so well, but because Tancredo did likewise. I simply refuse to accept Tancredo could garner 20 percent of the voters at a Tancredo rally, let alone at a straw poll.
I think that when the caucuses and primaries actually start occurring both parties may be in for big surprises.
I would not rule out "dark horse" candidates coming to the forefront in both the Republican and Democratic parties when it comes time for the primaries.
I think starting the whole process so early may backfire for some of these early front-runners. And honestly I do think there will be an "upset" in the Democratic party (meaning someone other than Hillary will make a big splash and steal her momentum)-- I'm just not sure which candidate that will be.
Hi TaiC,
Poor Tom. I swear my refrigerator is more articulate and it don't even talk much... any more.
Hi Perplexio,
I think the Hillary machine has the lock on the Democratic Party and I well expect her to win the general. There is but one ripple in the probability field and his name is Ron Paul. That is not to say that he will likely be the Republican nominee. This is still an uphill fight against incredible odds.
I don't want Hillary to win for the very reason that she is too close to Bush. The "neo-conservatives" and the democratic centrists like the Clintons are both born of the same authoritarian ideology. But Paul is the only Republican that I can imagine voting for, and I'm not alone. If the Republicans don't nominate him, there is no second choice for me in that party. I suppose I could go third party, but if an authoritarian like Giuliani or a fake like Romney gets the nod, I may have to vote against that person by voting for Hillary. That's not something that I relish, and neither is it something that I am alone in.
If the Republican Party thinks that it can count on all the buzz and activism generated by the Paul campaign without Paul as the nominee, they should think twice.
I know he's ruled out running as an independent, but I haven't heard Paul rule out running with the Libertarian party again. I hope he does if the reich wing denies the only candidate who actually stands by their purported values.
Hi Scott,
3 hours in the Central Florida sun and heat passing out flyers today was my way of betting that he still has a chance. There are a lot of great people out there like us that want to help. There are also those who give me pause to wonder if there is any hope. Oh well, one step at a time. RP won the Alabama straw poll today and was a close third in Illinois. And that is some good news.
GW,
I still remember in 1996 that Steve Forbes had to get on the ballot in the NY state primary because due to some technicality or loophole that Jack Kemp was taking FULL advantage of, Forbes was being locked out and kept off the ballot in that state.
In the end Forbes somehow overcame that and ended up on the ballot but by then it didn't much matter the die had been cast and Dole was the Republican nominee.
I supported Forbes over Dole in 96 and again supported Forbes over Bush in 2000 to no avail-- there was to be no "Teve Torbes" (remember that episode of SNL?) on the Republican ticket in either of those elections.
I don't think Hillary has the general election locked up, not by a LONG shot. I know several Democrats who said they'd rather vote Republican than put her in the White House... and some of those Democrats are women. Even my wife who leans to the left politically and supports Hillary has admitted that Obama is more charismatic and comes across as being more trustworthy than Hillary.
I don't mind the idea of a female president, I just don't want our first female president to be Hillary.
I hear what you're saying Perplexio. But just remember how things go down in this country. Bill Clinton won twice, yet never got a majority of the vote. Gore got the majority, but lost the election.
All the Clintons and their media cronies need to do is split the difference. Say Giuliani or Romney wins the nomination. The right wing of the GOP splits off and runs a third person. Hillary gets 45% and the two right of center candidates split the rest. She wins.
Now say a miracle happens and Paul gets the GOP nomination. Hillary (or another Dem) has to run against a candidate that is more antiwar than her. The right of the party is happy 'cause they have a real pro-life/small government candidate. Paul wins the general election.
I've been through this before. The nexus of power is in the hands of a few and "they" have already chosen Hillary. We need nothing short of a revolution to stop that.
Here are few of Ron Paul's latest poll results, just released within the last week:
California (Field Poll) - Ron Paul 1%
Nevada - Ron Paul 1%
Oregon - Ron Paul 1%
(OR Riley Poll just released this morning. Please note, Paul finished behind Tommy Thompson at 2% in Oregon. Thompson dropped out of the race a week ago.)
Washington Sate Straw Poll:
Paul, 45 - 28%
Thompson, 40 - 25%
Giuliani, 29 - 18%
Huckabee, 12 - 8%
Romney 12 - 8%
Hunter, 10 - 6%
Gingrich, 8 - 5%
McCain, 3 - 2%
Brownback, 1 - 1%
Gilmore, 0 - 0%
Hagel, 0 - 0%
Ron takes the Strafford County, NH, GOP straw poll today by another landslide:
Out of 286 votes cast:
Ron - 208 (73%)
Romney - 26
Huckabee - 20
Tancredo - 8
McCain - 7
Cox - 5
Hunter - 5
Fred Thompson - 3
Giuliani - 3
Brownback - 1
Ron Paul Wins Alabama Straw Poll
Despite all the attention paid to the meaningless Ames, Iowa straw poll, there has been almost zero coverage of the fact that Ron Paul dominated the Alabama straw poll Saturday, absolutely demolishing the competition:
Paul 216
Romney 14
Hunter 10
Thompson 9
Giuliani 7
Huckabee 6
McCain 2
Brownback 2
Tancredo 0
Cox 0
Texas is coming up September 1. I wonder if Ron Paul has a following in Texas? ;)
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